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Just a few of the many reasons Deep Space Nine is shit.

I used to laugh about ‘angry Internet nerds’, but I thought I’d give being one a quick go and see what happens, and vent some steam and opinions. I doubt it will change other peoples opinions, or maybe it will. Perhaps it will educate those who are oblivious to what I’m talking about a little. Or perhaps not. Well, technically I’m an angry Internet geek. An important distinction in my books. I’m not going to list the reasons in an orderly fashion here, as I would with reasons concerning a show I actually like, because its very difficult for me to generate and maintain enough interest in this pile of shit show. There are more than 1o reasons here, and they’re in some kind of rough order, but…ah, you’ll catch my drift.

Its hard to go through life without being a hypocrite, so…my apologies in advance. But I don’t apologise for my negative feelings towards this show, because I live in a free country. And because DS9 is utter rubbish.

Why is it shit? Because its boring. BORING. Mind-numbingly, spirit-crushingly, eye-wateringly, boring. Watching Deep Space Nine is like watching C-SPAN. No, in fact its like watching C-SPAN 2. Jesus, is there anything more boring than watching legislation being made? Oh yes, DS9, that’s right, I forgot for a sec. Any excitement that may be had in later seasons is completely negated by the fact that by that time viewers who had stopped tuning in, including myself but admittedly that happened after season 2, were so far beyond caring it scarcely mattered. If you were still watching, well, bravo. I applaud your ability to sit through hours and hours of the worst drivel ever, listening to the idiot crew churning out yet more complaints about how hard done by they are. Babies. They should have spent the last few episodes on an apology.

Filmed in SoapOperaVision(TM), with characters about as interesting as a cardboard cut-out of the word ‘DULL.’ Now, soap opera style is fine for SOAP OPERAS, not for science fiction. For fucks sake, I could tend a gas station, you know? A monkey’s younger, stupider brother could tend a gas station.  And still find time for rotten fruit and flinging his filth. I’m not going to list all characters here, but in summary:

Sisko: Boring whiner, boneheaded, miserable brooding idiot. Janeway and Picard, hell, even Kirk and Archer, run ENORMOUS rings around this guy in terms of leadership and charisma, and would eat officers twice the man he is for breakfast. Whose ship would you rather serve on? And be honest. If the batshit crazy happened and it was actually REAL, I’d feel safer and more confident under Janeway’s leadership on the other side of the galaxy in dangerous space than I would sitting with Sisko in my own backyard. He’d probably manage to underhand some Romulans or set the Prophets off on yet another lengthy and uncalled for hissy fit. What are the Prophets BTW, Catholic? Grow up and take the highs with the lows.

O’Brian: Annoying non-com who hobnobs with the senior officers and makes them, surprisingly, look ‘good’. (I use the word very loosely).

Kira: Now, at least this girl is interesting, and has some pizazz. The only character on DS9 I actually like. Quite a feat. Still whines too much though.

Bashir: I don’t know the point of this dude, or even if that is spelt right. I have zero inclination to go to the online encyclopedias and find out, I simply don’t care enough. Um, he’s a doctor, I think. Whatever.

Odo: Token weird alien who spends his whole time solving crimes that, frankly, aren’t interesting enough to require solving. So he can shape shift. Big fucking deal. Why doesn’t he ever shape shift into somebody interesting or useful?

Grrrrrr. I get sick of these idiots complaining about their crappy love lives or boring problems, filling up the gas meter on someones starship and then whining out another line. I can’t take listing anymore of this boring crew, but I’m sure you catch my drift.

This show has none of the spirit of adventure that the other shows possess in reams. Hell, I’m not a big fan of the Original Series, but at least it had that intrepid soul inside it, despite all the unlucky Ensign Ricky’s and the Worst Fight Scene EVER. (Check out YouTube if you don’t believe me, you’ll find it quick enough). To Boldly Go…Really Fucking SLOWLY. If at all. The only new thing we, the audience, get to explore on this show…is…is…no, there isn’t anything. Although we do get to see detailed shots of the inside of Odo’s office (joy) and plenty of interminably long, skin-peelingly bad scenes about how one member of the crew hurt another one’s feelings. Aww, poor baby. Whah fucking whah. Pay no attention to the nasty people.

Also, the theme music sucks. The Defiant (To the Idiotmobile!) looks like a fucking dinner plate, which is not good. And Jake Sisko is nearly as annoying as Wesley Crusher. Quite an accomplishment. At least he doesn’t have to save the station every other week from someone else’s stupidity.

And the noise those goddamn game boards on the Entertainment Boulevard make drives me FUCKING CRAZY. I don’t care what they are or what the game is called, that sound effect is one of the most annoying sounds I have ever heard. And the Ferengi irritate me too. I don’t like it when they’re in Voyager, which is thankfully pretty rare, maybe one or two episodes, so I dislike it even more in this damn show. Yeah, they’re an integral part of the Trek universe, but holy moley they’re irritating. Borg, Hirogen, Cardassians, at least they’re interesting.

The best thing about Deep Space Wank (I mean Nine, I think. Don’t I? Nope). is the end credits rolling. Train Wreck Nine? Shit Dreck: Deep Spaz Nine?

People inevitably compare Star Treks. Saying things like: ‘Hey, the other Star Treks are really good. This show however, totally sucks.’

If the crew of this trash-can had found themselves facing down the Borg or preventing Species 8472 from having a good crack at wiping out the entire galaxy, well, the Star Trek galaxy would, to put it bluntly, be fucked. Count your lucky stars for the other crews.

I might set up a phone hotline for people bored stiff by watching this show. A jellyfish could make better television.

Why do I watch it?! AAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!

Oh wait, that’s right, I don’t. Ha ha. Don’t like it, don’t watch it, that’s my philosophy. Everybody wins.

I’m done being a bitch now, and I feel better. Aaaaahhhhh. And relax….

Voyager out.

38 Responses

  1. Wow. I would appear as though you don’t like DS9, huh?
    But you forgot one thing any DS9 hater usually mentions…
    The ‘theft’ of Babylon 5 !!

    February 4, 2010 at 3:46 pm

  2. LOL.

    To be honest, I didn’t really think about that! It is a blatant rip-off of B5. I only watched a few seasons of that, its quite good, but I don’t like sci-fi that is stationary, if you get my meaning. I like it to move from place to place on a regular basis. If you think about it, Voyager’s initial core premise is not the most incredibly original either, a ship in space that is lost, (Lost In Spaaaaaaaaace! I know Trek is far superior to that old cheesy show, but the core idea is similar), but its the originality of the execution and the directions that they took it in that I like. Also, they’re not technically ‘lost’, they know EXACTLY where they are. It’s where they are, the other side of the galaxy, that’s the problem! :D

    Thanks for your comment John. You get a smile, and here it is. :)

    February 5, 2010 at 12:22 am

  3. Morshu

    I absolutely agree. I heard a lot of hype around DS9, and I finally got myself to watch it once I saw it in the TV programme. I was interested for a few episodes, but after a few it got dull and boring. It’s basically two season’s worth of story stretched out into seven seasons. I bet Gene Roddenberry is spinning in his grave, this has got to be the most boring ass show that I have ever seen, possibly worse than Enterprise. To quote the article, this should be called “Lets watch paint dry for seven seasons”. And let’s not even mention how too much it has in common with Babylon 5. Go watch that, not this money milking borefest.

    May 19, 2010 at 5:54 pm

    • Morshu

      To quote the EncyclopediaDramatica article, I meant. Sorry.

      May 19, 2010 at 5:55 pm

    • LOL. ‘Let’s watch paint dry for seven seasons.’ Heh-heh, I like that analogy!

      I don’t know if you read the other comment here, but he mentioned Babylon 5 as well. Most people consider that to be a good example of a spacestation-based show, and many seem to consider DS9 as massively inferior, or just plain shit. :D B5 hasn’t aged to well, but the stories are still entertaining and the overall spirit of the show is great. DS9 doesn’t have enough ideas or steam, or interesting enough characters, to make it worth watching. So….I don’t. ;)

      Thanks for reading and for your comment, I’m glad you enjoyed the post.

      May 20, 2010 at 6:50 pm

  4. Maria

    I loved this post ! Because I am just as anti-DS9 as most people on other Trek forums, and IMDb are anti-Voyager.

    I have really seen some nasty things said by the “Niners” on the net (one person actually aid R. Beltran should have been drowned at birth !).

    I agree about B5. It is way better and much more interesting than DS9. DS9 started out ok, IMO. But, somewhere in season 2 it just jumped the track and went careening off into an exercise in how to bore an audience and disenfranchise a fanbase.

    During an interview in 1994, Berman actually said he wanted to change DS9′s direction and “bring in a new fanbase” for Trek as a result. I guess he wanted to do this for DS9, and not Voyager. Because Berman produced Voyager, which stays true to Trek and scores 9 times out of 10.

    In the meanwhile, DS9′s later years were “ghost produced” by Ron Moore. And under his mantle the show never deserved to wear the name Star Trek.

    A friend of mine once commented that the 80s medical series, St. Elsewhere acts more like a Trek sow than DS9 !

    August 6, 2010 at 5:37 pm

    • I HATE DS9. Not a lot more I can say really. LOL. I thought Berman did a good job with Voyager, it does score 9 times out of 10. There are a few duds, but that’s true of any show. Its mostly a fantastic show, best TV show out there. Ever.

      Do you find alot of anti-DS9′s on forums? I have too, I think it just depends on which forum it is.

      August 6, 2010 at 10:06 pm

  5. DS9 rocks!

    DS9 required brains to watch it. With Voyager its paint by numbers alien of the week. No character development, and a convenient reset button so the ship has unending torpedoes and 2500 shuttles. Oh and don’t forget the ship has been battered more times than Tina Turner and still looks squeaky clean.

    I like Voyager too. But DS9 had bite to it. Voyage was a weak cup of tea

    September 15, 2010 at 1:46 am

    • I find your Tina Turner reference offensive. That is no laughing matter. You have proven you have NO TASTE. Fuck off from my blog and stay out.

      September 15, 2010 at 5:43 pm

  6. DS9 rocks

    I’m glad you find it offensive.

    I find your shitty blog offensive, no not offensive. What’s the word?

    Oh yes. boring

    September 16, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    • Ha ha ha. LMFAO.

      DS9 is boring. YOU’RE boring. Deal with it. Like I said, fuck off. Stop coming back here to read about stuff you don’t like. I said stay out, so take a hike.

      September 18, 2010 at 12:13 am

  7. dbolander

    I never watched Deep Space 9 when it was on the air; it just never seemed interesting to me.

    After the new Star Movie last year I committed myself to watching all of the franchises. I have to say Enterprise, Voyager, and Deep Space 9 all seem of a noticeably lower calibre. They simply don’t hold the interest that the original series and Star Trek The Next Generation.

    I’m not quite sure what it is that is missing. I’m just watching Deep Space 9 (on season 2) and it is so very boring. I see that they tried to develop more complex story-lines but I just don’t care for the characters.

    Maybe it sounds silly but I think the aesthetic of these three spin-offs is less visually rich in terms of the sets. The Deep Space 9 sets seem large and detailed, but they are dark, flat, grey. I loved the first two Star Trek series because the Enterprise was as much of a character as the live actors. It was beautiful and exciting. Voyager, Enterprise NX-01, and Deep Space 9 just lacked life.

    September 19, 2010 at 5:58 am

    • Fair enough points, if that’s the way you feel. Thanks for the comment. I was blowing off steam with this entry, but I stand by it.

      Next Gen has its moments, I suppose. Don’t tell anyone I said that though…. ;)

      September 19, 2010 at 10:25 pm

  8. Moe Aahdeeb

    DS9 was Star Trek as it could be, great art. Voyager was TNG wannabe but still fun for Trekkies. I go back and watch TNG now and find it boring, same with Voyager. DS9 stands the test of time. Season 1 has am impact on season 7. The writing for DS9 was far superior to any other Star Trek. As a Star Trek fan, to bash DS9 just shows a lack of understanding and lack of actually watching. If you watch the first season of Babylon 5 you’ll want to slit your wrists, but wow, by season 4, amazing stuff. Go ahead and call DS9 a rip off of B5, maybe it was. That doesn’t change the fact that it was better. It also had consistently better ratings than Voyager even though it was smarter; and we all know Americans hate smart TV, look at the success of Oprah to prove that. DS9 rules. All other Star Trek is entertaining enough to keep most morons happy, so power to you…

    December 7, 2010 at 5:55 am

    • ‘All other Star Trek is entertaining enough to keep most morons happy, so power to you…’

      ….is exactly the kind of pretentious, so far up their own asses those lumps in their throats are their GODDAMN NOSES attitude that many DS9 fans are afflicted with. Pompous assholes, throwing abuse on the other Treks because of a perceived lack of meaning. Ha, bullshit. Part of the reason for that blog entry was to get one back at those kinds of fans. Like you. Thank you for rising to my attempt. Its nice to know such irritating DS9 fans are reading and getting annoyed by my entry, it makes it all worth while. So no no, power to YOU. Enjoy your highbrow bullshit and wallow in your misplaced feelings of self-importance. So other Star Trek fans are morons because a lot of them don’t like DS9? Fucking typical reaction. You seem to think you are somehow elevated above other fans. I find that amusing. You are, by the way, totally wrong. Wake up, for your own good.

      Enjoy your drivel. I watched more than enough to know that it is shit.

      December 7, 2010 at 11:33 pm

  9. Nigel

    I understand that TOS and TNG were very one-off oriented and that VOY took that theme as well but over-arching stories tend to be favored by those with attention spans longer than a two-parter. For a ship supposedly “stranded” in a distant quadrant of space with no federation support, the Voyager was very well kept up, shouldn’t they have ran out of energy or torps? Everyone was always clean and well fed, no one of concern came close to dying, and the Voyager crew routinely defeated opponents that were not only technologically superior, but were managed to outnumber the Voyeger crew in man AND ship power. Voyager was the result of sloppy writing, no imagination, and ideas derivitave of the worst concepts born of TOS and TNG. DS9, however, dealt with complex themes, such as war, religion, racism and the human condition. I understand that this does not fit the original idea of a “wagon-train in space” but it definitely represents a more advanced style of writing and story-telling. What truly difficult decisions did Janeway actually have to make? Sisko faced mutiny, lost a person he was involved with to a terrorist sect and prison, dealt with war, the death of people involved in the war, religious cultists (including religious entrappings and beings beyond his understanding) had to make moral decisions which, while helping the cause of a greater good, were atrocious and almost criminal acts, dealt with a clandestine organization and issues such as racism (with Odo and Garak) religious zealots (the people who followed him and people who followed others). On top of this each character in DS9 was more well-rounded and developed than those on Voyager. I understand that Voyager was lost and on their own but they didn’t start as strong characters and barely grew as people, let-alone the fact that no one on Voyager seemed the least bit wary considering the fact that they were all in a foreign quadrant with much more superior forces acting as threats. Voyager’s concept was a good one but Battlestar’s revamp did it much better while taking the better aspects of DS9 with it. Voyager was happy-go-lucky while in a shitty situation, DS9 attempted (sometimes not as well as others) to deal with how people would actually react in shitty situations.

    February 8, 2011 at 10:23 am

    • I disagree, but you voiced you opinion very well. Voyager is better, and no more derivitive than ANY spin-off. But, that’s your opinion, so fair play.

      It seems you have not watched Voyager enough but Janeway regularly had to make tough decisions. If you sayd she never does, I question how much of Voyager you ahve actually seen, or was the dismissive attitude immediate? Perhaps worth a rewatch. DS9 however, is poor television.

      May 30, 2011 at 10:36 pm

  10. serena

    Couldn’t agree more.
    At the moment i am ‘forcing’ myself to watch it just to have a better knowledge of the star trek world but my oh my, it works better that sleeping pills!
    Characters are plain, storylines weak, Sisko is as flat as a pancake, wouldn’t hurt to see some charisma, passion and emotions, no fire in his belly, just a poker face, such bad acting..
    5 seasons to go.. if i manage to get to the end…

    April 20, 2011 at 2:58 pm

    • LOL. Flat as a pancake. LOL. I’ll remember that one. I wouldn’t bother watching the rest, if I were you. It gets no better, and the characters get even more annoying. Yeah, I know, hard to believe but there it is, the proof is in the watching. But, again, don’t bother. ;)

      Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz…..

      May 30, 2011 at 10:38 pm

  11. I love your razor sharp sense of humor LOL..

    Picard and Janeway set standards that are hard to beat. I love both shows and I’ve got them all; bought the first season of Sleep Space 9 hoping the series would keep me going for a while but not a chance. In the first episode Sisko (or whatever his name is) tries to assert himself facing Picard but the result is bloody miserable. Then it only gets worse. Plastic characters and soap opera story line.

    Your blog puts my Universe back on the right track “in a few easy steps”. Thanks for all the good work you have done.

    May 30, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    • Thank you for the ‘razor sharp’ comment, that’s quite a compliment. I’m glad you enjoy the blog and that it helps keep your universe the right way up.

      Agreed. Sisko couldn’t assert himself, or act himself, out of a paper bag. Janeway (and Picard) are the finest leaders by far. For The Win.

      Soap opera and sci-fi are a bad combination, and DS9 is the worst example of that kind of shite. I’m sorry to say I don’t get much opportunity nowadays to update the blog, but maybe, hopefully, I can find some more time in the future. I’m pleased you consider the blog ‘good work’, thanks again. :)

      May 30, 2011 at 10:43 pm

  12. Doggy J

    Lol, I agree with your character analysis of DS9 100%.

    TNG = The best. Picard is legendary and all the other actors were good as well.

    Enterprise = Really good. The actors were good and the show had good potental, I don’t know why it didn’t take off.

    Voyager = Really good show. (Although sometimes I would cringe at Janeway’s command decisions…and I feel sorry for Harry for never being promoted, lol.)

    TOS = Set the standard and started everything. Terrible acting by Shatner? Yes. But somehow it managed to make the show even more interesting.

    DS9 = wtf were they thinking…..

    July 1, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    • Fair enough points, if that’s your opinion, cool man, power to you. W00t! I don’t know why Enterprise didn’t take off either. Very odd.

      Thanks for the comment. :)

      July 2, 2011 at 5:33 pm

  13. I have seen every episode of every series. (except season 4 of Enterprise)

    First of all, as a Star Trek fan, i can honestly say i have watched more TNG over the years than any other series. It is probably the most repeated TV programme other than Friends, and The Simpsons. Yet whilst i absolutely love TNG and i raise my hands and say its my favorite show, as someone who is interested in how television is made, and written for, i have to say that Deep Space Nine is far superior.

    Whilst i agree with you that there are may “boring” episodes, and on occasion it can be Deep Sleep Nine. (but then the same can be levelled at the other Trek shows.) I find that all of the DS9 characters and many of the guest characters are far more developed, not only themselves, but in their relationships with the characters around them. Also after 7 seasons of growing and developing and dealing with the consequences of their actions, the final episodes really are worth the wait. Voyager and TNG in contrast concentrate on very episodic television, and tend to hit the Big Red Reset Button at the end of each episode. Only very rarely harkening back to older episodes. You can watch most episodes of Voyager (and TNG) out of order and it doesnt matter because the episodes very rarely tread on each others continuity, and in comparison to DS9, the series finales of TNG and Voyager are somewhat of an Anticlimax.

    You say DS9 didnt “explore” anything… you’re wrong… it explored the nature of the human condition better than any other Star Trek series. The nature of being human expands massively into religion, politics, interpersonal relations, the quest for knowledge, what is right and wrong.

    It explored Fear… This show delved into terrorist groups nearly a decade before 9/11 happened. The Bajoran people had just come out of being opressed for 40 years by a brutal government, and they didnt trust the almighty Federation when it arrived.

    It explored the nature of Greed… what does it do to you if your entire life is based around the quest for profit… in a way, 24th Century Ferengi society has many parallels with 20th Century post war capitalism. It delved into a story similar to that of the Suffragettes… Ferengi females gained greater rights.

    The Cardassians, and Gul Dukat want to rule the galaxy, and to do that they made a deal with the devil… literally. (The Dominion and Pah’wraiths) Over the series you see what this does to a people, and then later how some of them realise their mistakes and attempt to rectify them.

    Religion… what is Evil… Gul Dukat was not evil. Yes he was the greatest antagonist in the history of Star Trek, but he was not evil. He truly believed that what he was doing was the right and true and good thing. Even when his own daughter told him he was evil, he didnt understand, because his belief was unwavering. it showed us that Good and Evil are points of view. As is religion, just because i believe one thing and you believe differently doesnt mean either of us are wrong, unless there is factual evidence that can corroborate your argument. Granted what Dukat was doing was pretty horrific, but it is no different to Terrorists… they are evil in our eyes, but in their own eyes they are doing what is good and true and right.

    Kira in her younger years was a freedom fighter, using whatever means necessary to kill as many Cardassians as possible, the Cardassians thought her a Terrorist… who was right? Damar is a Cardassian who truly hates Bajorans, because that is how he was brought up. But when faced with a Bajoran, Kira, who had been brought up hating Cardassians, they actually gained a respect for each other because they saw that they really werent that different.

    We also saw effective propaganda at work, with The Dominion trying to pass themselves off as the saviour of the galaxy, when under the surface, their Founders really wanted to dominate and opress the solids who had once opressed them.

    I could come up with examples all day at why DS9 is superior to the rest of Trek…

    I’m not saying it doesnt have its flaws, but when i see blog posts like yours “intrepidvoyager” and i read this:
    “If the crew of this trash-can had found themselves facing down the Borg or preventing Species 8472 from having a good crack at wiping out the entire galaxy, well, the Star Trek galaxy would, to put it bluntly, be fucked. Count your lucky stars for the other crews.”
    I realise you probably havent watched the programme.

    Firstly if the Borg had actually made an effort and sent an entire fleet to assimilate us, they would have succeeded, even with janeway and Picard and the entire federation fighting them off. An entire Borg Armada could have wiped the Federation from existence. Equally, if species 8472 are unassimilatable, then surely they could not have been completely defeated by one Federation Starship. It is not possible. Fact is, it took the bulk of the Federation, Romulan, Klingon and Cardassian forces to finally push back the Dominion, after years of being on the loosing side. If you are suggesting that the Enterprise or Voyager could have defeated an entire Dominion Armada single handed then you are more deluded than i thought.

    Reading your blog post, most of your complaints about the show seem to be completely shallow… this show is far more complex and detailed than “Harry Kim is in charge of an alien ship this week” or “we’re in a race this week, but theres a bomb somewhere as well” or “we’re getting assimilated so we can destroy the borg from the inside out, but its okay because the doctor can fix us next season”.

    Your descriptions of the characters are so lacking, and completely miss what those people where about. You say they like whining. Harry Kim and Wesley Crusher are the most whining little sh… i’ve ever had the misfortune to watch.

    Again… i love Star Trek Voyager, The Next Generation and Original Series… TNG is my favorite, but Star Trek Deep Space Nine is by far the most superior body of work. Deep Space Nine, stands up against Babylon 5 and Battlestar Galactica for the strength of its ongoing story arcs. Admittedly the other two shows are better, but then all of them are still superior to TNG, VOY, Enterprise and TOS.

    A few other points…

    Throughout the 90′s and early 00′s there was a massive Syndicated market for Sci-Fi, which included shows such as Babylon 5, Andromeda, Farscape, Earth: Final Conflict, the various iterations of the Stargate Franchise, and Battlestar Galactica. Such to the extent that Network shows seemed to suffer. Case and point, DS9′s ratings were higher than Voyager, despite Voyager being on UPN and DS9 being in Syndication. So Voyager was not as popular as DS9 during its original run.

    I dont think it is entirely odd that Enterprise did not take off. I’ve seen the first 3 seasons so far (i didnt have Sky when season 4 was on), and i have to say it lacks something that brings me back to the other series, probably why i’ve not made any effort to catch up on season 4. I really dont know what it is about Enterprise that makes it so uninteresting.

    Lets face it, by todays standards, post Galactica & Firefly. Star Trek will have to do much better than DS9, TOS, TNG, VOY and especially Enterprise, if it is to compete with other TV shows on the air. Also, when Doctor Who can get 8 million viewers in the UK, a massive 40% of the viewing audience on average, and is reguarly the #1 watched show in the UK for its entire season run, why can Star Trek not do the same?

    Voyager is not the “greatest Sci-Fi show ever” as stated in your blog i can think of many that are far superior. Doctor Who being the most obvious. The show has been going for near 50 years, and regularly pulls in Double the weekly viewing figures of any Star Trek series. I couldnt even consider Voyager in the top 10: Farscape, Babylon 5, TNG, The Twilight Zone, Stargate SG-1 (which ran for 10 years with solid ratings on cable), Firefly, The X Files, TOS, Battlestar Galactica(2003) and Doctor Who.

    After everything i have written i know that “intrepidvoyager”, you are a Voyager fan, and nothing i can say will change your opinion on DS9. Perhaps in a few years you will rewatch with fresh eyes and see the show for the superb piece of television it actually is.

    Until then…
    …there’s coffee in that nebula.

    October 3, 2011 at 11:19 am

    • Woah, essay post. Made for good reading though, thanks for the comment.

      And please, don’t tell me that I haven’t watched the show, because I bloody have. As much as I could stand. Probably about half of the episodes from various seasons. That was as much as I could bear.

      I got sick of the Niners hating on the other Trek shows with all their pretentious superior bullshit, and this post was the result. I stand by EVERY word of it, but appreciate your thoughts. Thanks again. :)

      October 14, 2011 at 6:51 pm

  14. I just…cant figure out why people like DS9…

    um im not a big star trek fan …but all i do is watch criterion collection films… so thats my ‘good taste’ reference i guess? lol.

    October 14, 2011 at 5:01 am

  15. actually deep space 9 has helped me fall asleep pretty easily as of late… i guess its kind of relaxing

    October 14, 2011 at 5:03 am

  16. actually delete all these comments, i dont want to have anything to do with this show..this isnt a joke…please just reject the comments

    October 14, 2011 at 5:04 am

    • Consider them rejected. But I’m leaving them up because they make me smile.

      October 14, 2011 at 6:53 pm

  17. Ian

    I see just as youtube has, this post has attracted all the keyboard warriors and retards. Star trek is Star trek either u like em or u dont, or u get on here n whine like a utube hater, n tell the other geeky nerds how u would smash them n mouth off how gd you are, i live in Toronto Australia n i loved ds9, and if any of u want to talk to me about that or my comment u can come visit me, i will gladly organize where to meet, otherwise i dont care to hear ur pathetic response of how rich you are, how you were actually on the set of ds9, how you are actually rick berman, how you are really strong and are skilled in all mma, or any other bullshit fucking story ppl make them selves out to be. and the dude who wrote this has no idea what he is doing, sounded like a spaz 13yrold from utube.

    October 30, 2011 at 8:25 am

    • You are a fucking twat. Stop projecting your bullshit onto me. Now fuck off my blog.

      October 30, 2011 at 7:49 pm

  18. pj

    I just got netflix. I’ve been watching all star trek series for the first time. I’ve seen voyager, enterprise, tng, and now watching ds9. This is the only series so far that puts me to sleep in the middle of the episode. I keep haveing to rewatch the last half of the episode. I hope it getts betting im on episode 30.

    December 1, 2011 at 9:58 pm

    • It doesn’t get better. But still, stick with it. I hate tp admit it, but its the only way you’ll know for sure whetehr its for you personally. Btw, it gets a lot WORSE. LOL.

      December 1, 2011 at 11:56 pm

      • Skeptic

        I cannot fathom how anyone could compare Voyager with DS9 and complain about the Ds9 characters being “boring!” Aside from Janeway, and perhaps the EMH (who was quite annoying, but not as much as Neelix), the characters had no depth whatsoever. What makes Paris any different from, say, Riker? Wasn’t Kim constantly falling in love and getting rejected (much like Geordi did in TNG)? Tuvok…where do I begin. For a guy with no emotions, he seemed like he was always on the verge of a melt down. The guy was ill tempered, arrogant, and hardly anything like the Vulcans we’d seen prior. Shuttle missions were guaranteed to fail (couldn’t they come up with another plot device), and somehow the crew of Voyager, isolated in the Delta Quadrant, made more technological advancements than Starfleet scientists working around the clock? Give me a break. Voyage was flashy, obnoxious, and reduced the Borg from an imposing, menacing villain to cannon fodder.

        As for Janeway, I recall one episode in which she gives the organ stealers a very stern warning, something to the effect of “if you so much as think about touching another member of my crew, I’ll tear out your heart and shove it down your throat!” Yet, when they abduct Paris and Tores and kill one of her Lieutenants, she simply extracts her two surviving crew members and leaves! What about all of the other captives? By leaving them, she essentially sentenced them to certain death. What about her threat? She didn’t even so much as imprison the one who was directly responsible for her officer’s death! Voyager is a great show for people with amnesia, because then they’ll forget how many shuttles were lost, how many topedoes were fired, plot lines that were left dangling, and so on. These same people would be incapable of appreciating a show like DS9 which had far more compelling story arcs that were developed over the course of numerous episodes.

        January 7, 2012 at 5:30 am

      • Fathom it pal, because it just happened right before your eyes. DS9′s characters are so boring they make my eyeballs hurt. Voyager was SURROUNDED by alien technology, is their ability to use it to enhance the ship ahead of standard Federation technology really so surprising to you? As for the Borg, its a simple matter of Janeway being able to stick it to the Borg more effectively than the captains. She is a hell of a leader, and no amount of arguement from you will change that fact. You find the fact that Tuvok had some actual goddamn personality irritating? Jeez man, I feel sorry for you. And you COUNT shuttles used and torpeodes fired during the series? LOL, Really? What, you keep a little notebook do you? LMFAO. Frankly, that’s pathetic and you should feel bad about it. Just ENJOY the drama, for fuck’s sake. You sound a little butt-hurt that someone dares to hate the show you like. Why don’t you just stick to watching DS9? I hate DS9, so I have avoided it ever since. I watch and enjoy Voyager instead. Simple.

        January 7, 2012 at 10:58 pm

  19. Sarah

    Agree. Agree agree agree. I absolutely adore TNG, a lot of that has to do with the fact that it’s tied up in lots of nostalgia since I used to watch it with my dad when I was a kid (as well as my lifelong love of Patrick Stewart), and I also love Voyager, mostly for the creative premise and Kathryn Kick Ass Janeway. I used to watch Deep Space Nine because it came on right before Voyager and TNG and I would have to strain to stay awake so that I wouldn’t miss the start of Voyager. For me, a stationary Star Trek just doesn’t seem like Star Trek at all, it’s SO boring that they can’t go anywhere! It drives me crazy! And Sisko was always ridiculously annoying to me, he is the most boring character to ever be on ANY tv show (that I can think of). Also, may I just add how hilarious it is to see a picture of Janeway calling people “fucking twats” when you respond to posts?

    January 6, 2012 at 1:31 am

    • You may just add that, yes. LOL. I never thought of that before, I bet it does look odd. Apparently, there is no swearing in the future! ;)

      Thanks for your comment, it’s nice to see yet another Star Trek fan with good taste and a brain in their head. :)

      January 7, 2012 at 11:01 pm

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